Renown rewards rework

[Lei'lira]

You do have a point. Hmm...what if some cities (like Athart) simply require you to be fluent in their native language if you plan to live and work there, then? In less extreme cases, the fluency bonus would still apply since it isn't required, and that would be +1 wp per season?

Edit: Those moving to a city where fluency is required to work might be given a season of language lessons at a reasonable cost (to be written out, therefore earning the required knowledges)? While in that program, they might be given a small allowance for expenses instead of having a job. It would earn just enough to cover expenses that season, though - not actually earning wp. It would just save someone from going into debit or losing wp to cover expenses until they could earn fluency in the required language?

[Pegasus]

You do have a point. Hmm...what if some cities (like Athart) simply require you to be fluent in their native language if you plan to live and work there, then? In less extreme cases, the fluency bonus would still apply since it isn't required, and that would be +1 wp per season?

Edit: Those moving to a city where fluency is required to work might be given a season of language lessons at a reasonable cost (to be written out, therefore earning the required knowledges)? While in that program, they might be given a small allowance for expenses instead of having a job. It would earn just enough to cover expenses that season, though - not actually earning wp. It would just save someone from going into debit or losing wp to cover expenses until they could earn fluency in the required language?

I think this is all very much up to the city mod, how they deal with language and stuff, and not really the remit of the wealth system. If a city requires you to learn.. I dunno... Common Sign, then they do. What they put in place to allow you to do that is up to them and the individual city mod.

[Kyreen]

Like language, qualifications also boost wages. How do you want to handle them?

Please note: You gain the wage bonus for the highest level of qualification you have in a related field. These bonuses are not cumulative. If in doubt, check with a local prophet

Letter
An additional 2gn to seasonal wages
(surpasses wage-caps, must be in a related field, or working for an academic institution)
Certificate
An additional 4gn to seasonal wages
(surpasses wage-caps, must be in a related field, or working for an academic institution)
Diploma
An additional 6gn to seasonal wages
(surpasses wage-caps, must be in a related field, or working for an academic institution)
Charter
An additional 8gn to seasonal wages
(surpasses wage-caps, must be in a related field, or working for an academic institution)
Licentiate
An additional 10gn to seasonal wages
(surpasses wage-caps, must be in a related field, or working for an academic institution)

[Kesindir]

So a big thing we want to do is keep continuity between the different bonuses. The renown gives +1wp a season, language bonus does the same, so it's important that the qualifications do the same. Knowing how much effort goes in to each of the qualifications, giving them a flat +wp per season is definitely a well earned reward.

Letter = +1wp a Season
Certificate = +2wp a Season
Diploma = +3wp a Season
Charter = +4wp a Season
Licentiate = +5wp a Season.

The ruling should still be that the highest qualification counts. It is not a cumulative bonus. Highest qualification begets that particular addition to wealth per season.

Make sense?

[Lei'lira]

It does to me, but as someone who doesn't have any qualifications for any of my PCs, I wasn't really aware that they even had bonuses at all.

[Kyreen]

Makes sense to me, but I'm not the one with the descision power.

[Quio]

10% off items in the Price List. (up to a maximum of 50%)

What about this reward? Are we just going to leave it as a 10% discount?

For a one-off 50% discount we've decided on 1 season's worth of items for free from 1 section (1 tier above your own) OR paying half the cost of a singular item 2 tiers above your own. Not sure how to translate that to 10% overall unless we just keep it as it is (as a percentage). But if we're going to do that, then why change the 50% discount to avoid percentages?

Hmm.

Maybe like an additional year's supply of items in 1 section at 1 tier above your own?

EDIT: Also, perhaps instead of paying half the cost of a singular item 2 tiers above their own they could just get it for free? I'm not sure if that's too much for the 50% discount tho.

EDIT 2: Because I keep forgetting to say things, in my opinion we shouldn't up the PB point reward because PB points are not only intended to be used as a conversion to wealth. I think 50 is fine as it is.

[Faith Augustin]

@ Lei'lira and @Kyreen

Thanks for the positive feedback - that's good to know!

10% off items in the Price List. (up to a maximum of 50%)

What about this reward? Are we just going to leave it as a 10% discount?

For a one-off 50% discount we've decided on 1 season's worth of items for free from 1 section (1 tier above your own) OR paying half the cost of a singular item 2 tiers above your own. Not sure how to translate that to 10% overall unless we just keep it as it is (as a percentage). But if we're going to do that, then why change the 50% discount to avoid percentages?

Hmm.

Maybe like an additional year's supply of items in 1 section at 1 tier above your own?

EDIT: Also, perhaps instead of paying half the cost of a singular item 2 tiers above their own they could just get it for free? I'm not sure if that's too much for the 50% discount tho.

That could work....

but what about for the 10% "2 WPs off a single extra purchase from the shoppe" and for the 50%, "10WPs off a single extra purchase from the shoppe"

Does that make things easier considering that how we're doing the shoppe?

here (any comments on the Shoppe very welcome!!)

[Kesindir]

@ Lei'lira and @Kyreen

Thanks for the positive feedback - that's good to know!

10% off items in the Price List. (up to a maximum of 50%)

What about this reward? Are we just going to leave it as a 10% discount?

For a one-off 50% discount we've decided on 1 season's worth of items for free from 1 section (1 tier above your own) OR paying half the cost of a singular item 2 tiers above your own. Not sure how to translate that to 10% overall unless we just keep it as it is (as a percentage). But if we're going to do that, then why change the 50% discount to avoid percentages?

Hmm.

Maybe like an additional year's supply of items in 1 section at 1 tier above your own?

EDIT: Also, perhaps instead of paying half the cost of a singular item 2 tiers above their own they could just get it for free? I'm not sure if that's too much for the 50% discount tho.

That could work....

but what about for the 10% "2 WPs off a single extra purchase from the shoppe" and for the 50%, "10WPs off a single extra purchase from the shoppe"

Does that make things easier considering that how we're doing the shoppe?

here (any comments on the Shoppe very welcome!!)

This makes so much sense it almost hurts.

[Quio]

That could work....

but what about for the 10% "2 WPs off a single extra purchase from the shoppe" and for the 50%, "10WPs off a single extra purchase from the shoppe"

Does that make things easier considering that how we're doing the shoppe?

here (any comments on the Shoppe very welcome!!)

I'll be commenting on the new price list once I've read through all of it! Do we want those comments here or in the feedback thread?

Also, I think we've got to switch / change up those numbers a bit. The 50% discount is one-off. The 10% discount is perpetual. That means the 10% discount is actually worth more. So we need to switch the numbers (for the 50% 2wp off a single extra purchase; for the 10% 10wp off a single extra purchase) or change the numbers a lil bit. Unfortunately I don't know enough about the new price list (are we calling it the shoppe?) to suggest new numbers. Though I can try, haha.

I think the 50% one-off as 2wp is good. If we wanted to go higher for that one, maybe as high as 5wp? Perhaps the 10% one should be more like 10wp extra per year or something like that.