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Is the guidance that mods of an area can't have an influencial character in that area, going to remain?
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I will make it clear to all players that no member of staff has ever been allowed to abuse their position for their own PC's gain. If any member of staff has a PC in a Domain they moderate, they are required to request any special permissions through another moderator and may not approve anything for their PC themselves. They are held to a higher standard than regular players and, in my experience, are more likely to be knocked back a couple of times (I know myself to have been very hard on a number of PC controlled by staff members).Elyna wrote:Is the guidance that mods of an area can't have an influencial character in that area, going to remain?
Rynmere has gone through a number of staff changes over the past few months; it is a massive city, and a daunting prospect for anyone to take on, given the sheer amount of attention this Kingdom requires. The staff team are very grateful to Incubus for stepping up to support Rynmere in this way, and I hope all of the players are too. I can guarantee that no one's experience in Rynmere will suffer - all staff from across the site have their actions and decisions audited informally by other members of staff.
We are here to offer the best experience we can and if anyone has any concerns, please direct them to the Advocate Team.
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Simply put, no. This wasn't really a rule or anything - it was just a suggestion.
After thinking about it, I have a few major points that need to be said concerning this concept.
1. It is actively being suspicious and incriminating of your mods and fellow players, to think that they cannot handle a position of authority without abusing it.
2. It contradicts the previous strata, who held powerful positions whilst playing in the city.
3. It prevents people passionate about Rynmere from wanting to moderate Rynmere, because they have to abandon their PC in the process.
4. It forces someone in a volunteer, incredibly stressful position, to be punished for their work and dedication to the city.
5. It is simply an untenable position. If someone wants to levy specific complaints about abuses and provides evidence, that is a different story. As a blanket rule however, it is very unfair, very punishing and very against the mods who work to keep the city going. It also, as we've seen as a result of this suggestion being put into place, leads to a great deal of unhappiness, discontent and flat out unwillingness to want to contribute from those who must abandon their PC goals to satiate unsubstantiated claims.
This is a concept born of claims that have only been spoken about in gossip, and with no actual basis in logic, facts and information. That isn't to say mods can just abuse their position to give their PC authorities and privileges. Of course, such things should be pointed out by players and other mods and addressed. However, they need to be looked at fairly without an absurd amount of over-examination to the point where it becomes harassment more than anything else.
I will probably still be moving Alistair to colonize Kaernhad. However, for other mods who wish to join, I have no interest in telling them they can't keep their PC's position or eventually rise to a higher one. It's just unfair. In exchange for the idea that one might possibly, somehow, abuse their position to gain power, it is just not a proper response to say "okay, so surrender all power instead, just because of speculation".
After thinking about it, I have a few major points that need to be said concerning this concept.
1. It is actively being suspicious and incriminating of your mods and fellow players, to think that they cannot handle a position of authority without abusing it.
2. It contradicts the previous strata, who held powerful positions whilst playing in the city.
3. It prevents people passionate about Rynmere from wanting to moderate Rynmere, because they have to abandon their PC in the process.
4. It forces someone in a volunteer, incredibly stressful position, to be punished for their work and dedication to the city.
5. It is simply an untenable position. If someone wants to levy specific complaints about abuses and provides evidence, that is a different story. As a blanket rule however, it is very unfair, very punishing and very against the mods who work to keep the city going. It also, as we've seen as a result of this suggestion being put into place, leads to a great deal of unhappiness, discontent and flat out unwillingness to want to contribute from those who must abandon their PC goals to satiate unsubstantiated claims.
This is a concept born of claims that have only been spoken about in gossip, and with no actual basis in logic, facts and information. That isn't to say mods can just abuse their position to give their PC authorities and privileges. Of course, such things should be pointed out by players and other mods and addressed. However, they need to be looked at fairly without an absurd amount of over-examination to the point where it becomes harassment more than anything else.
I will probably still be moving Alistair to colonize Kaernhad. However, for other mods who wish to join, I have no interest in telling them they can't keep their PC's position or eventually rise to a higher one. It's just unfair. In exchange for the idea that one might possibly, somehow, abuse their position to gain power, it is just not a proper response to say "okay, so surrender all power instead, just because of speculation".
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Perhaps it's not my place to throw a dog into this fight. But it's a unique situation without a super easy answer. Humans difficult (take it from a martian). But anyways, it's a matter of consolidation of power and conflicts of interest, because lets face it, self interest is a strong driving force, few people do things because they don't like doing them. So, yeah slef interest is kinda key in doing things. Now lets get corny, with great power comes great responsibility. Alistair, is decidedly pretty friggin powerful. Like woo don't wanna touch that dude. so it's easy to be concerned when that's around.
I think it's mighty big of ya to leave, and i get why people would be concerned. That said, we cannot go about being suspicious without excessive cause, this goes for any side. I suppot being a pain in the ass of anyone I think is gonna cause trouble, though i'm pretty quiet about doing it.
I don't know how to feel about Andaris because I know like zero about it. But I think it's too early to make any assumptions, mayhap things will be awesome here soon, lets at least give it a go no?
I think it's mighty big of ya to leave, and i get why people would be concerned. That said, we cannot go about being suspicious without excessive cause, this goes for any side. I suppot being a pain in the ass of anyone I think is gonna cause trouble, though i'm pretty quiet about doing it.
I don't know how to feel about Andaris because I know like zero about it. But I think it's too early to make any assumptions, mayhap things will be awesome here soon, lets at least give it a go no?
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Erm, no? O.o
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Look, y'all.
Rynmere's mods have changed, so it's normal that the city changes with them. I'm not really following how it's all going, but I know all the people working behind the scenes are there because they too love the city. They work for all of them but also for themselves, because some of them also write there, so it's in our best interest that we give them a chance.
All this bickering and shit is cancerous. I feel sorry for the mods that are getting all these heat for trying to moderate, especially since they do this voluntarily, with no obligation or being paid for doing so. This isn't their job. So I'd suggest everyone take a step back, take a deep breath, and start behaving like adults if they want to be treated as such. If that's not what you want, then I'm sure nobody else would choose to waste their time into a city that's so difficult to manage already, because the current mod team is made of the most resilient members of this page. Nobody else would step into this... well, cancer-drama.
Is this really the things you want newcomers to see about our community? This thread is shameful. Were it me behind the scenes I would've shut this city down long ago.
Rynmere's mods have changed, so it's normal that the city changes with them. I'm not really following how it's all going, but I know all the people working behind the scenes are there because they too love the city. They work for all of them but also for themselves, because some of them also write there, so it's in our best interest that we give them a chance.
All this bickering and shit is cancerous. I feel sorry for the mods that are getting all these heat for trying to moderate, especially since they do this voluntarily, with no obligation or being paid for doing so. This isn't their job. So I'd suggest everyone take a step back, take a deep breath, and start behaving like adults if they want to be treated as such. If that's not what you want, then I'm sure nobody else would choose to waste their time into a city that's so difficult to manage already, because the current mod team is made of the most resilient members of this page. Nobody else would step into this... well, cancer-drama.
Is this really the things you want newcomers to see about our community? This thread is shameful. Were it me behind the scenes I would've shut this city down long ago.
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Amen to that, there should be a medal for modding in rymere it's become the most negative city on the site.
This site is supposed to be for fun.
This site is supposed to be for fun.
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Not gonna lie, an IC event where Rynmere is destroyed sounds awesome.
Though it could also potentially suck for a lot of people...
Though it could also potentially suck for a lot of people...
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Whenever one finds oneself inclined to bitterness, it is a sign of emotional failure.
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